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A Comic by Coco Picard: Moshe Zvi Marvit Discusses His Debut Novel “Nothing Vast”

A Comic by Coco Picard: Moshe Zvi Marvit Discusses His Debut Novel “Nothing Vast”

  • A discussion with Moshe Zvi Marvit, author of "Nothing Vast"; in comic form.
Comic intro with the text: Moshe Zvi Marvit’s epic multi-generational debut, Nothing Vast follows individuals as they emigrate from Morocco or Poland to France or America and, finally, Israel. At the book’s start, the state of Israel does not exist on a map. But the unique, multigenerational paths traversed by the book’s characters, managing their disparate, hyper-local concerns, while negotiating the shifting geopolitical landscape of industrialization and World War II, lead to their eventual convergence in a place they call Zion; the so-called promised land. A place that comes into being as a result of their arrival. But what is given up upon their arrival? What violence do ideas commit and who is responsible for them? In this critical account, Marvit subtly illustrates the complex and eclipsing erasure of a process in which myth is made real. He does this by portraying a swath of intricately researched characters drawn from his own half-European American and half-Arab American Jewish heritage. Nothing Vast thus maintains the presence of multiple realities, identifying names, and calendars—recalling for instance, how when lunar and Gregorian calendars align, Israel celebrates its day of independence while Palestinians mourn Al Nakba, or “the catastrophe,” when the 1948 Arab-Israeli War displaced an estimated 700,000 Palestinians. The individuals contained in this book lack the omniscient view of Marvit’s readers, and so we watch history unfold with devastating sympathy, wondering at the opacity intrinsic to our own lives. “To study the laws of history,” Tolstoy suggests, “we must completely change the subject of our observation, must leave aside kings, ministers, and generals, and study the common, infinitesimally small elements by which the masses are moved.” Nothing Vast is a book about everyday people, people who didn’t appear in history books, but who nevertheless participate in the myopic tide of its devastating occasion. This book has become ever more necessary since October 23, 2023 and in light of the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people.
Comic with text: What I witnessed in the history of my family is not the major historical events that fill history books such as the Holocaust, but rather the small silent moments when people live with their trauma and memories—the way they order their lives so as to never confront them.

Events like World War II and the Holocaust are present, but never brought into focus, because that is the way people live with their ghosts. It’s a small haunting that happens in the oddest moment, when you can’t think of the word you need in your adopted language—Hebrew or English—but instead the word that comes to mind is the dead language you haven't spoken since you were a child. In order to try to capture the interiority of these characters, I looked to those moments, rather than to what we think of as history.

I was born in Houston, Texas, and grew up knowing very little about my family history before the 1980s. My mother was a double emigree—from Morocco to Israel as a child, and then from Israel to America in her early 20s—who shut down discussions of her or her family’s past, because opening the past could summon forth malignant spirits and invite the evil eye.

My father’s parents came [to America] from Poland—his mother before the Holocaust, his father after—and they could not bring themselves to talk of any past in any way. So, to try to unearth the family stories (I hesitate to call it history, since so much of it exists in silences and contradictions), I took the few stories I knew and started prodding every member of the older generation who would talk. I would get bits and pieces from one person, before they realized what they were saying and stopped talking, and I would use that to get information from another person.

After my grandparents died, I also had access to boxes of old documents and photos and strange souvenirs that were held onto for generations for no apparent reason. I used those to interrogate the stories, sometimes with success, but usually I was just led to more unanswered questions. That is when I realized something: that the more neat and tidy a story was, the more it was false, a manufactured and repeated myth. The true stories were filled with contradictions and impossibilities, no answers or endings, just lives caught in the wind.
Comic with text: There is a way in which people who migrate and create new identities try to start from scratch and create something wholly new. But people are palimpsests, and they carry with them their previous names and languages and calendars and tastes and desires and habits, which leads to strange and uncontrollable coincidences. In Israel—because Israel is a character in this book—this is compounded because every place name also represents the ghost of a previous place and name, every date on the calendar that is a celebration for one group is of necessity a day of mourning and grief for the other. For me, it’s the way that these two realities try to live on top of each other, while ignoring the other, and turn their attention to ghost stories and a disappeared past that is most interesting.

I have heard some critique that the name changes in Nothing Vast make the characters harder to follow and can be disorienting for the reader. This is precisely the purpose. Name changes are a break and a marker, and they disorient the subject and everyone around them.

A major feature of migration seems to be the rewriting of one’s past and the formation of a new identity to match the expectations and mythologies of one’s adopted country. With respect to Israel, a new country was being developed and pushed into existence in a place to which most Jews had only a spiritual and metaphoric connection, and that meant mass-migration from across the diaspora, the revival of an ancient biblical language, which served as no one’s vernacular, and the making of a new grand narrative of the land and the people.

This project sought to erase the history of Palestine from the 1st Century CE when the second temple was destroyed and the early 20th Century.

Zionism has never properly acknowledged the history and rights of indigenous Palestinians, instead ignoring and erasing the people and their past. Part of this project involved renaming. Renaming cities and villages, springs and geological features, from the organic names that grew into existence over time, to biblical names, often without regard to whether the names ever even matched the place.

People also engaged in renaming themselves, choosing new Hebrew and biblical sounding names in lieu of their Eastern European or Arabic names. Though Nothing Vast largely concerns characters of the type that would not show up in any history, almost all of the major historical Israeli figures from Israel’s first Prime Minister, Ben-Gurion (originally Grün) to the current Prime Minister, Netanyahu (originally Mileikowsky), underwent name changes to conform to this new place and new story. 

When a physical place is formed and materialized from an ideology mixed with fantasy, it will be built upon violence when the myth becomes material. As much as proponents of an ideology try to craft a narrative where all peoples will benefit from their vision, one can see in the way that all affected people do not get a voice in their new reality that they will be bulldozed if they do not conform. 

Nothing Vast was written between 2019-2022 about a period between 1932-1973, so it does not engage directly with anything that has happened since October 2023. However, Hamas’s October 7th attack did not occur in a vacuum, nor did Israel’s ongoing genocide of Palestinians. Many American and Israeli Jews—me amongst them—have grown up with a narrative of Israel that is false in so many respects, including the major omission of Palestinians from the story (except as occasional interlocutors). But, to paraphrase what historian Eric Foner has said about America, the history that we have been taught could not have led to the present we are living in. My goal when I wrote the book, which I hope is still worthwhile, was to complicate the story that Israeli and American Jews tell themselves. The stories of my family, as well as so many others, are far more problematic. And one cannot understand the present unless one really engages with the real stories that families carry with them.

Moshe Zvi Marvit’s work has appeared in the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Nation, the New RepublicDissent MagazineIn These Times, the American Prospect, the Bellevue Literary Review, and elsewhere. Marvit lives in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Nothing Vast is his debut novel.

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Nothing Vast
by Moshe Zvi Marvit
Acre Books
Published October 15th, 2024

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